Have you ever heard that old adage "Nice Guys Finish Last?"

Well, I’m here to tell you that saying is 100% true!

Being a "Nice Guy" with women doesn’t work, not because you get too caught up in what a girl wants and get stuck as a friend, but because Nice Guys are typically very, very…

SELFISH!

That’s right. When you’re a "Nice Guy," you’re not really being nice, you’re being EMOTIONALLY GREEDY.

Let me explain…

One of the biggest problems guys who are struggling with women face is that so many of them have such a weak identity and so little self-esteem, that they base their own self-worth on what other people THINK OF THEM.

These guys are at the mercy of everyone else in their lives, so they try their best to please the people around them, hoping they’ll continue to think highly of them, so they can feel good about themselves. That’s not so bad, right? It feels good when others approve of you, doesn’t it?

Most people look at this behavior and would instantly categorize these poor men in the "Nice Guys" column. After all, they’re the ones who don’t like conflict. They’re the ones who don’t want to make waves. They’re the ones who want everyone to be happy.

They are also some of the most selfish people on the planet.

Seriously. 

And the point of this article is to make everyone who thinks of themselves as "nice" or as a "victim" really, really wake up!!!

All of you "Nice Guys" out there reading this are nothing more than "people pleasers." Somewhere in your life, you found out that pleasing people is a way to get other people to like you and admire you so you can feel good about yourself. Whether it was the acclaim of your parents, or the acceptance of your friends, somewhere in your time on this planet YOU LEARNED to feel good based on what other people think of you.

But I’m here to tell you that using other people’s feelings and goodwill like that is not only harmful, but dishonest!

Anyone who says "I can’t stand conflict!" or "If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all!" should do us all a favor and move to the planet "Ideal" where life is wonderful, we all have transparent heads, and there is no war. Only on this planet will you be able to find that everyone is willing to give you the moral support you need.

But that’s the crux of the issue right there. All you "Nice Guys" have a losing mentality about your need for support. Your methodology is: "I am so loving and giving and nice, I expect you to treat me the exact same way as I treat you!"

Here is the typical thought process of Nice Guys:

– "Don’t disagree with me! It’s not fair because I do so much for you!!!"

–"Please be sympathetic and comfort me when I’m upset! I’m needy and can’t comfort myself."

–"Always be in a good mood. I am always trying to make you happy and if I can’t, I feel ashamed and mad at you!"

–"Pay attention to me when I need it! I’ve earned it after all I’ve done for you!!!!"

–"Take care of me by doing what I’m afraid to do! I take care of you, so you need to return the favor!!!!"

Look at those thoughts above, and ask yourself "If someone was saying that to me, how would I react?" Now you know where women are coming from when they don’t want to have relationships with "Nice Guys."

Once that happens and the needy demands of "Nice Guys" go unmet, they fall into the deep pits of self-pity and depression. They also feel a lot of shame and anger at their failure to please the women they want, and though these "Nice Guys" can keep their pleasant demeanor up for a long time, their resentment of the women they want to please will grow and grow until it explodes in anger and rage, either directed at others, themselves, or both.

This kind of mentality can extremely damage your self respect and cause others to not want to be around you.

So what’s a "Nice Guy" to do?

If you want to have success with women, you need to stop being agreeable all the timme and instead be straightforward and honest, especially when you have to go against the wishes of others and disappoint them. You can do this with kindness and sensitivity, but you MUST do this nonetheless.

Only by being honest, with yourself and with others, will you be able to overcome the selfish "nice guy" habits you have adopted in your life. And when you do this, you will stop caring about what other people think of you because the source of your validation comes from the fact that you’re being true to yourself and straightforward with others, and you will cease to harbor resentment and anger, and have more self respect and less depression.

That is the only way I have found to truly stop being a "Nice Guy" and become the type of man other people can respect. It can be hard being honest with others (especially yourself) because the truth is not always popular, but in the end it is far more rewarding than any other behavior you can adopt.

–National

It depends what you categorize as "work". My definition of a ''relationship working" is something long term whether it be 5 years,10 years,20 years etc. You're definition of working is 2 months,5 months. Believe it or not National there are girls that like to have long relationships. Rarely are there long relationships with bad boys. I can bring up the easiest example. Megan Fox for example has been with BAG for 5 years. That wouldnt of happened if he was a bad boy. Im not trying to deviate the thread

tinit5190 said:

This one comes from:

http://www.attraction-college……drome.html

And even has a link you can go to to learn more!

yeah, but it donsen't mean that National don't know anything about girls…

National said:

DeeplyInLoveWithMeganFox said: Megan Fox for example has been with BAG for 5 years. That wouldnt of happened if he was a bad boy.

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I was going along with everything you said. But when I read that sentence, my reaction after reading that was:

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For tinit5190: How's it going, man? Long time no see.

—-

For ThisFreakIsAlive: What you said was awesome! Everything made sense, especially your last two lines.

—-

And now, here's a piece of advice I found on the internet a long time ago. Even though I've edited it a bit to fit my personal situation, it's still a mirror image of how I see things. A lot of you might not agree with what you're about to read, but this is a case of reality working in weird ways. Reading this advice really opened my eyes into this Matrix. I owe it to the guy who wrote it, and now I'm going to share it with everyone here.

**WARNING: THIS IS NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED**

Let me point out right now that my Modus Operandi won't change if she's single or if she has a boyfriend or husband. I just do my normal routine and I fuck her. Sometimes she brings up the boyfriend so she won't feel guilty when I fuck her because now it's "my fault." Sometimes she hides it from me until after I've fucked her, then she admits it. I can't tell you how many times I've been laying next to some chick, all sweaty after nice rounds of sex when suddenly her phone rings and she's on the phone with her man, giving him some bullshit story. This is with NO GUILT whatsoever!!! The sweetest most innocent girls you will EVER lay your eyes on, will cheat at the drop of a dime. The one thing most men value most – loyalty – is just not there with women. Women don't think in terms of honor, women are basically emotionally driven. If they feel it, they do it, that's it. Then they rationalize it to themselves later. Nothing is more meaningful, or compelling, to a woman than (A) the way she feels and (B) learning more about her own inner self and having emotional realizations. That's why a lot of women love astrology, chick flicks, soap operas, stupid Cosmo quizes that supposedly reveal info about yourself, etc.

I must be really good looking, right? In my case, yes. That's why I love my avatar. Great looks do serve an advantage, but a guy can be average looking and still pull these stunts off. I lost my virginity when I was 17, but I really did not have success with women until I was in my early 20's. That's when I decided to go out a lot and start trying to get laid. Facing rejection several times a night, and not giving up to fix your approaches with women is part of the game.  I didn't get laid at all for the first few months. Then every now and then. Now, it's pretty often. I wouldn't have even believed this were possible when I was in high school. The ONLY factor that determined whether a woman would cheat was my own skill level. When my skills were poor, women wanted nothing to do with me. (Everyone knows how women think they have license to be rude bitches in social situations such as parties, clubs and lounges. In fact I understand and appreciate that behavior now.) But once my skills got better, I could fuck just about anyone's girlfriend. And many times I didn't know they had a man until after I fucked them. However, there was this one woman who I had trysts with who was married and I knew in advance that she was married.

After living this way, I don't see how can ever get married. How could I ever be the guy who pays for everything and blissfully goes through life not worrying about his woman because he trusts her? Look, would you leave your dog alone with a steak? You can't hate the dog for doing what's in its nature. You can't trust a dog, BUT you can trust a dog to BE a dog. Yes, there are men who are disloyal… but I could *never* trust a woman to be loyal. Some men have turned out to be not-so-popular presidents of their countries … but I will *never* vote for a woman to be president. I can rarely expect a woman to regard her own promises as more important and compelling to her than the emotions she feels in the moment. She will rationalize it to herself later.

Here's an interesting fact. Did you know that the average 22 year old (hetrosexual) woman has TWICE as much sex as the average 22 year old (hetrosexual) man? You might ask, how is that possible? If a woman's having sex, doesn't that mean a man is having sex at the same time? And thus, shouldn't men be having just as much sex as women? NO…because most men hardly get laid, or if they do, it's because they "got lucky." But a small group of men get laid pretty much ALL THE TIME, and fuck LOTS and LOTS of women! It's evolution at work. Women follow their emotions, and that leads them to sleep with men like me (who know how to control female emotions.) Women want the top man…so the top man fucks lots of women. That's right – the sexual revolution, feminism, etc has resulted in a return to harems. Women, at the mercy of their own emotions, are volunteering for the modern-day equivalent of harems. Lucky for me, right?

You might say, "But…but…I'm so nice! I'm a nice guy!" Guess what, buddy? That's like a fat chick saying, "But I'm so smart!" As if those things have anything in the world to do with sexual attraction!

I'm going to give some tips here for the guys who are posting online trying to get laid and who are spending hundreds/thousands of dollars on all those whores out there without getting any play. Regardless if you're are seeking a long-term relationship, follow these rules: 

– Don't be sexually judgemental in any way. A woman's worst fear is to be perceived as a slut. She can be your filthiest fantasies come true if she thinks you don't view her poorly for it (AND if she knows her friends won't find out).

– Don't get angry at her. Women know they have emotional outbursts and they need to trust that you can handle that. It's ok (and necessary) to occasionally put your foot down … just make sure she knows you are fully in control of yourself.

– Don't let her manipulate you or control you in ANY way. She will immediately lose all respect for you. Always be leading. It's just like dancing – women hate a man who can't lead.

– When first approaching a woman or a group if them, they tend to get a feeling like this is just your little scheme to get close to them, when you really just want something from them – such as sex. (And they're ABSOLUTELY correct.) It's important to structure your body language and conversation so that they honestly don't believe you want something from them. They should feel like you are about to leave at any second.

– DON'T TRY TO IMPRESS HER TOO MUCH. Don't show off. Don't talk about accomplishments or possessions (unless she talks about her's first). As soon as she perceives that you are trying to prove yourself to her, she loses all interest.

– Do NOT ignore her friends. A woman values her friend's opinions more than just about anything else in the world. Nothing matters to her more than what other women are thinking. Give her friends a lot of attention and get everyone smiling. If one woman is feeling different than the others, she will drag them away. They will follow like a flock of birds. (Notice that men do NOT behave this way! Women are very different!)

– To get a woman attracted/emotionally vulnerable, give her emotions and feelings. Don't just make her feel good. Make her feel good, angry, sad, connected, astonished, and intrigued, etc. Make her laugh a little. Tease her. Tell stories about your sick puppy (if you have one). Tell her why things would never work out between the two of you. Call her a dork. If she gets heated up, she will start touching you … playfully push her away. If she calls you a jerk and punches your arm, you're doing it right. If she gives you that "I can't believe you just said that" look, do NOT back down and say "Oh I'm just kidding" or anything like that.

– As she gets more emotional, she will try to ruin things by throwing in logic. She will ask you if you are a player, or if you say this to all the girls, or whatever. The trick is this: Don't take it seriously by giving it some logical answer! Women will lose interest if you take them seriously!!! It's crazy but that's how they behave. Just blow it off or misinterpret what she's saying as though she is coming on to you. If you fail these tests, she will be gone so fast your head will spin.

– She will start asking you a lot of questions. This is what chicks do when they suddenly find themselves attracted to a man they know nothing about. This is your chance to open up a little and also find out more about her and build a deeper connection. You have to do this, or she will flake later (even if you've kissed her!) Women are the worst flakes in the world! Don't make it too easy for her, make her work for it a bit. Then talk about connections and childhood memories and things you have in common, etc. She needs to feel that this is genuine. This is usually the time when I throw in a few fake vulnerabilities, like pretending I'm shy or insecure about something. I know it's fucked up but women need to see that there are at least a few small holes where they can sink their hooks in you. They get uneasy if you are too perfect.

– Make sure she gets the feeling that you have standards and that you are judging her based on them. Women don't like to feel like you are with them only because you can't do any better. They prefer to feel like you have high standards; you can get any chick you want, but you chose HER because she is SOOOO special and SOOOO different from all the others. Yeah, I know.

– Move her to different locations. Take her next door for a drink. Take her across to some diner. The more locations the better.

– Take responsibility for every escalation. A woman will do just about anything as long as she doesn't have to feel like it was "her fault." Make it YOUR fault. Make it "just happen." She will rationalize it to herself later using the same bullshit generator that women use to flake out on dates at the last minute. Don't get her horny until you get her isolated. Believe me, for them, emotional is better than horny.

– Keep the woman always swinging somewhere between validation and rejection. If she feels rejected, she drops out or gets REALLY MAD. And if she feels too validated, she will ditch you in a heartbeat. So push her away (emotionally) and then pull her back in.

– BELIEVE YOUR OWN BULLSHIT. Chicks do not look at your excuses and try to see if they are bullshit or not… because that is the logical thing to do, and chicks are not logical. Rather, what they do is see if YOU seem to believe your own bullshit when you say it. If you look like you do, then chances are, they will believe it too. So the key is to believe your own bullshit, and other aspects about yourself that you want the chick to believe about you, too, because your own self beliefs for some reason will automatically 'impart' to the chick!

– One more thing: many guys make the mistake of listening to female romantic advice. DO NOT listen to them. THEY DON'T KNOW WTF THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. They will tell you what they THINK they want, instead of what they actually RESPOND to. And furthermore, a large part of the female sexual experience IS the inability to admit these things BECAUSE they derive sexual pleasure from putting up resistance and being overwhelmed.

If you do things this way, after a few months practice you WILL get laid like a rock star. And if you're like me, the women who will share passion with you will be as hot as Marisa Miller (the girl in this picture. I wish she was wearing a Yankee jersey, but oh well). WOW!!!  I LOVE Marisa Miller!

The guys who get laid are the ones who know what they are doing, because they have practiced on a lot of women. Ironically, a lot of women are most attracted to the men who are most likely to fuck them and leave them – because those are precisely the men who have so many other options because they practice on lots of women. It's no wonder why you always hear women bitching about how men are assholes that only want to fuck them and dump them – because those are the men they gravitate to.

Women tend to wise up when they they reach 30. Then start look for a nice, wimpy guy to settle down with and pay for all their nonsense. As they get older, they will get more and more desperate to find this guy. Once they do, they will cheat (or at least have desires to cheat) on him with someone like me or Tom Brady.

–National

yea i couldnt not speak about megan. After all thats why im on this site because shes always on my mind. I have plenty of friends who are just nice guy and are getting laid by some nice women. They all have been in relationships for more then 1 year with there women. Then i have friends who are "bad boys" and have slept with hot women but never held on to a relationship. If you want to get laid take Nationals advice, if you want to have a nice, healthy and maybe long relationship then just stick to being yourself and if you just so happen to be a nice guy then a girl out there will find you. Me personally im not a sex fiend which is why i dont go around trying bang women. I can wait till i find somebody i really love. Thats just me, some people cant and theres nothing wrong with that.

Ill stick to what ive said all this time. Those beautifull girls that you are in the streets, work,school or whatever might all go for the badboys now but when there older they will realize that they cant get what they really want in a bad boy. They cant get that sentimental relationship that they will want at some point. I know tons of examples of this happening. My uncle got a good job, hes a nice guy with a sense of humor. Never really was of girls interests until he hit 30 and all the girls started to try to make contact with him. And they all say the same thing, that stage of my life is over, im grown up now. Im ready to have kids and get married.

The reason you guys shouldnt take nationals advice too seriously (no offense btw) is that he doesnt want these kind of things. Nothing wrong with that though. Whateva floats yo boat

I dont mean you're advice wasnt serious. It was good advice but people shouldnt take it too seriously. if i wanted to sleep with tons of girls then no doubt would i take all your advice and use it. I might want to in a couple years who knows.  There are good parts to what you said though but you're main message that nice guys finish last shouldnt be taken to seriously. What is you're definition of last? not being able to sleep with the hottest girls?

National said:

Let me point out right now that my Modus Operandi won't change if she's single or if she has a boyfriend or husband. I just do my normal routine and I fuck her. Sometimes she brings up the boyfriend so she won't feel guilty when I fuck her because now it's "my fault." Sometimes she hides it from me until after I've fucked her, then she admits it. I can't tell you how many times I've been laying next to some chick, all sweaty after nice rounds of sex when suddenly her phone rings and she's on the phone with her man, giving him some bullshit story. This is with NO GUILT whatsoever!!! The sweetest most innocent girls you will EVER lay your eyes on, will cheat at the drop of a dime. The one thing most men value most – loyalty – is just not there with women. Women don't think in terms of honor, women are basically emotionally driven. If they feel it, they do it, that's it. Then they rationalize it to themselves later. Nothing is more meaningful, or compelling, to a woman than (A) the way she feels and (B) learning more about her own inner self and having emotional realizations. That's why a lot of women love astrology, chick flicks, soap operas, stupid Cosmo quizes that supposedly reveal info about yourself, etc.

I must be really good looking, right? In my case, yes. That's why I love my avatar. Great looks do serve an advantage, but a guy can be average looking and still pull these stunts off. I lost my virginity when I was 17, but I really did not have success with women until I was in my early 20's. That's when I decided to go out a lot and start trying to get laid. Facing rejection several times a night, and not giving up to fix your approaches with women is part of the game.  I didn't get laid at all for the first few months. Then every now and then. Now, it's pretty often. I wouldn't have even believed this were possible when I was in high school. The ONLY factor that determined whether a woman would cheat was my own skill level. When my skills were poor, women wanted nothing to do with me. (Everyone knows how women think they have license to be rude bitches in social situations such as parties, clubs and lounges. In fact I understand and appreciate that behavior now.) But once my skills got better, I could fuck just about anyone's girlfriend. And many times I didn't know they had a man until after I fucked them. However, there was this one woman who I had trysts with who was married and I knew in advance that she was married.

After living this way, I don't see how can ever get married. How could I ever be the guy who pays for everything and blissfully goes through life not worrying about his woman because he trusts her? Look, would you leave your dog alone with a steak? You can't hate the dog for doing what's in its nature. You can't trust a dog, BUT you can trust a dog to BE a dog. Yes, there are men who are disloyal… but I could *never* trust a woman to be loyal. Some men have turned out to be not-so-popular presidents of their countries … but I will *never* vote for a woman to be president. I can rarely expect a woman to regard her own promises as more important and compelling to her than the emotions she feels in the moment. She will rationalize it to herself later.

Here's an interesting fact. Did you know that the average 22 year old (hetrosexual) woman has TWICE as much sex as the average 22 year old (hetrosexual) man? You might ask, how is that possible? If a woman's having sex, doesn't that mean a man is having sex at the same time? And thus, shouldn't men be having just as much sex as women? NO…because most men hardly get laid, or if they do, it's because they "got lucky." But a small group of men get laid pretty much ALL THE TIME, and fuck LOTS and LOTS of women! It's evolution at work. Women follow their emotions, and that leads them to sleep with men like me (who know how to control female emotions.) Women want the top man…so the top man fucks lots of women. That's right – the sexual revolution, feminism, etc has resulted in a return to harems. Women, at the mercy of their own emotions, are volunteering for the modern-day equivalent of harems. Lucky for me, right?

You might say, "But…but…I'm so nice! I'm a nice guy!" Guess what, buddy? That's like a fat chick saying, "But I'm so smart!" As if those things have anything in the world to do with sexual attraction!

I'm going to give some tips here for the guys who are posting online trying to get laid and who are spending hundreds/thousands of dollars on all those whores out there without getting any play. Regardless if you're are seeking a long-term relationship, follow these rules: 

– Don't be sexually judgemental in any way. A woman's worst fear is to be perceived as a slut. She can be your filthiest fantasies come true if she thinks you don't view her poorly for it (AND if she knows her friends won't find out).

– Don't get angry at her. Women know they have emotional outbursts and they need to trust that you can handle that. It's ok (and necessary) to occasionally put your foot down … just make sure she knows you are fully in control of yourself.

– Don't let her manipulate you or control you in ANY way. She will immediately lose all respect for you. Always be leading. It's just like dancing – women hate a man who can't lead.

– When first approaching a woman or a group if them, they tend to get a feeling like this is just your little scheme to get close to them, when you really just want something from them – such as sex. (And they're ABSOLUTELY correct.) It's important to structure your body language and conversation so that they honestly don't believe you want something from them. They should feel like you are about to leave at any second.

– DON'T TRY TO IMPRESS HER TOO MUCH. Don't show off. Don't talk about accomplishments or possessions (unless she talks about her's first). As soon as she perceives that you are trying to prove yourself to her, she loses all interest.

– Do NOT ignore her friends. A woman values her friend's opinions more than just about anything else in the world. Nothing matters to her more than what other women are thinking. Give her friends a lot of attention and get everyone smiling. If one woman is feeling different than the others, she will drag them away. They will follow like a flock of birds. (Notice that men do NOT behave this way! Women are very different!)

– To get a woman attracted/emotionally vulnerable, give her emotions and feelings. Don't just make her feel good. Make her feel good, angry, sad, connected, astonished, and intrigued, etc. Make her laugh a little. Tease her. Tell stories about your sick puppy (if you have one). Tell her why things would never work out between the two of you. Call her a dork. If she gets heated up, she will start touching you … playfully push her away. If she calls you a jerk and punches your arm, you're doing it right. If she gives you that "I can't believe you just said that" look, do NOT back down and say "Oh I'm just kidding" or anything like that.

– As she gets more emotional, she will try to ruin things by throwing in logic. She will ask you if you are a player, or if you say this to all the girls, or whatever. The trick is this: Don't take it seriously by giving it some logical answer! Women will lose interest if you take them seriously!!! It's crazy but that's how they behave. Just blow it off or misinterpret what she's saying as though she is coming on to you. If you fail these tests, she will be gone so fast your head will spin.

– She will start asking you a lot of questions. This is what chicks do when they suddenly find themselves attracted to a man they know nothing about. This is your chance to open up a little and also find out more about her and build a deeper connection. You have to do this, or she will flake later (even if you've kissed her!) Women are the worst flakes in the world! Don't make it too easy for her, make her work for it a bit. Then talk about connections and childhood memories and things you have in common, etc. She needs to feel that this is genuine. This is usually the time when I throw in a few fake vulnerabilities, like pretending I'm shy or insecure about something. I know it's fucked up but women need to see that there are at least a few small holes where they can sink their hooks in you. They get uneasy if you are too perfect.

– Make sure she gets the feeling that you have standards and that you are judging her based on them. Women don't like to feel like you are with them only because you can't do any better. They prefer to feel like you have high standards; you can get any chick you want, but you chose HER because she is SOOOO special and SOOOO different from all the others. Yeah, I know.

– Move her to different locations. Take her next door for a drink. Take her across to some diner. The more locations the better.

– Take responsibility for every escalation. A woman will do just about anything as long as she doesn't have to feel like it was "her fault." Make it YOUR fault. Make it "just happen." She will rationalize it to herself later using the same bullshit generator that women use to flake out on dates at the last minute. Don't get her horny until you get her isolated. Believe me, for them, emotional is better than horny.

– Keep the woman always swinging somewhere between validation and rejection. If she feels rejected, she drops out or gets REALLY MAD. And if she feels too validated, she will ditch you in a heartbeat. So push her away (emotionally) and then pull her back in.

– BELIEVE YOUR OWN BULLSHIT. Chicks do not look at your excuses and try to see if they are bullshit or not… because that is the logical thing to do, and chicks are not logical. Rather, what they do is see if YOU seem to believe your own bullshit when you say it. If you look like you do, then chances are, they will believe it too. So the key is to believe your own bullshit, and other aspects about yourself that you want the chick to believe about you, too, because your own self beliefs for some reason will automatically 'impart' to the chick!

– One more thing: many guys make the mistake of listening to female romantic advice. DO NOT listen to them. THEY DON'T KNOW WTF THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. They will tell you what they THINK they want, instead of what they actually RESPOND to. And furthermore, a large part of the female sexual experience IS the inability to admit these things BECAUSE they derive sexual pleasure from putting up resistance and being overwhelmed.

If you do things this way, after a few months practice you WILL get laid like a rock star. And if you're like me, the women who will share passion with you will be as hot as Marisa Miller (the girl in this picture. I wish she was wearing a Yankee jersey, but oh well). WOW!!!  I LOVE Marisa Miller!

The guys who get laid are the ones who know what they are doing, because they have practiced on a lot of women. Ironically, a lot of women are most attracted to the men who are most likely to fuck them and leave them – because those are precisely the men who have so many other options because they practice on lots of women. It's no wonder why you always hear women bitching about how men are assholes that only want to fuck them and dump them – because those are the men they gravitate to.

Women tend to wise up when they they reach 30. Then start look for a nice, wimpy guy to settle down with and pay for all their nonsense. As they get older, they will get more and more desperate to find this guy. Once they do, they will cheat (or at least have desires to cheat) on him with someone like me or Tom Brady.

–National

I'm not sure what the other people are talking about, but I swear this is the BEST advice I have ever receieved. Everything I wanted to know was posted by National. I'm going take this to heart and perhaps live out a brand new life. Reading this really opened my eyes to what the real world can be like when I'm out partying. One line that really caught my attention was when he said "The sweetest most innocent girls you will EVER lay your eyes on, will cheat at the drop of a dime." Another one was when he said "To get a woman attracted/emotionally vulnerable, give her emotions and feelings. Don't just make her feel good. Make her feel good, angry, sad, connected, astonished, and intrigued, etc. Make her laugh a little. Tease her. Tell stories about your sick puppy (if you have one). Tell her why things would never work out between the two of you. Call her a dork. If she gets heated up, she will start touching you … playfully push her away. If she calls you a jerk and punches your arm, you're doing it right. If she gives you that "I can't believe you just said that" look, do NOT back down and say "Oh I'm just kidding" or anything like that." The whole thing was golden.

I've seen examples of this happen all the time with other people and it's so funny how attraction sexual attraction works. Everything National said seems real cool and fun to actually live out and experience it first hand.

But before I can seriously consider seeing other women, I've got a question to ask National. The reason I'm asking you, National,  is because you seem to have the answers to a dilema I'm facing. After reading your stuff in here, I feel that I can trust you more than what the others who have disagreed with what you said. Plus, I really dig that Tom Brady avatar you've got. It shows someone who knows what he's doing. Here's the problem I'm facing: I am a freashman in college, who has a girlfriend who is still in high school. We've adjusted to the separation better than we expected, but her father told her she can't see me anymore. She isn't sure of his reasons. I want to call her father but she told me not to. What should I do?

P.S. Marisa Miller is pretty damn hot, I have to agree.

National said:

Now for your dilema at hand. I'm flattered that you chose me to answer your question and you thought my avatar was a reassuring symbol of guidlines to having a good time when you're interacting with the opposite sex.

Now, you mean to say that her mean daddy told her to break up with you? Yeah, right! Go find yourself a college girl. Perferrably one who's a bit slutty.

I don't believe a SINGLE word she told you. I'm absolutely SURE she lied to you. Her father had nothing to do with this.

But let's play Devil's Advocate for a second and assume that she WAS telling you the truth. What then? Well, she's still wants nothing about you because she didn't fight for what she believed in: the relationship with you. If she was into you and didn't want to lose you, she would defend herself against her dad. Instead, she did nothing.

Instead, she lied to you. Think about it. Her father "never gave her the specifics." It couldn't have been because the two of you are farther away from each other and that her father feel it's best to go with someone who's closer to her. Why? Because if that were the case, he would've told her. Instead, he "never gave her a specific reason as to why he wants the relationship to end." That's not hard to tell your daughter, is it? The truth is SHE didn't want to tell you why she wants it to end. Also, the timing of it is way too convenient. She waited until you were far away from her before she told you this, just a little bit after you started settling in with your college life. She does not want you calling him. That's because he never said anything to her. Even if what she told you was true, talking to her dad over the phone would not be a good idea and a waste of time.

Like I said, go get yourself a COLLEGE girl.

The best way to get over a girl, is to get under a new one. And that goes for any guy in here who reads that. I bet she's on top of another guy as we speak. If not, then it's only a matter of time.

Forget her. In fact, play the field a bit, sleep around with several college chicks (you'll have the time of your life) before getting serious with someone new.

Follow my advice, and you'll have Marisa Miller-type of women thirsting over you. Take it from me, who's living it first hand.

Life can be so delicious!

–National

Oh man. Thanks SO MUCH for taking the time in helping me out with my situation. At the same time, it kind of saddens me that this girl would lie to me about what's really going on. I looked at what you said and it makes sense. What you said made me realize that things weren't really adding up. I couldn't beleive she made this up. And even if she was telling the truth, you even covered that senario in the event that she was honest. Even then, it was not going to work out. You're the man, National. She lied to me and there's no use in talking to someone who is going to be sneaky in order to get rid of someone. I KNEW I can trust you.

And come to think of it, having a little fun doesn't hurt. I'm ready to take on the other advice you gave and see the results of having hot babes wanting me. Your advice hit it right on the nail. And where you said "the best way to get over a girl is to get under a new one," was hilarious as fuck! I was laughing out loud after I came to fully realize that the relationship with that girl was not going to go any further. You seem like a cool guy to hang with.

You woke me up and now I'm taking advatage of my new liberty as a single guy. Hooking up with new women is the way to go. It helps get rid of the memories you had about the last relationship that fell apart.

Thanks for the answers.

yeah, live it up while you can, life is too short